Message-ID: <25185010.1075862164851.JavaMail.evans@thyme> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 07:28:28 -0800 (PST) From: k..allen@enron.com To: richard.morgan@austinenergy.com Subject: RE: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-From: Allen, Phillip K. X-To: '"Morgan, Richard" @ENRON' X-cc: X-bcc: X-Folder: \PALLEN (Non-Privileged)\Allen, Phillip K.\Sent Items X-Origin: Allen-P X-FileName: PALLEN (Non-Privileged).pst Richard, I checked with Wink and his prices were slightly lower per square foot but the builder was not keen on the panels Wink is selling because the dimensional lumber to frame windows and doors is not included. So that reduces some of the savings. Either way it still appears that a panel home will cost close to $20,000 more for a 4000 sq ft home. Even if I assume my energy savings will be $125/month, it would take approximately 22 years to recover the upfront cost assuming a 5% interest rate. Cost is a major concern, but I am also concerned with the comfort level of the upstairs. I am under the impression that the panels will prevent the upstairs from feeling significantly hotter than the downstairs as most two story homes do. What are some other alternatives that would also be effective? Radiant barrier? More attic ventilation? Thank you for your help. Phillip Allen 713-853-7041 -----Original Message----- From: "Morgan, Richard" @ENRON Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 9:04 AM To: Allen, Phillip K. Subject: RE: Phillip, there are a number of alternative systems that will allow the same level of energy efficiency. I would wait a bit for Wink's bid though. You say that your panel costs are $20,000 additional. that sounds like a lot. I just did a panel house with a 2100 sq ft footprint and the total panel cost was about $25,000 with 8 inch walls and 10 inch roof. Stay in touch and we can discuss alternatives if that becomes necessary. If your budget is $85-90 per sq. ft. excluding land costs your costs will be on the low end of the true custom home level but should be achievable with good management. Richard Morgan Manager, Green Building Program Austin Energy 721 Barton Springs Rd. Austin, TX 78704-1194 Ph. 512.505.3709 Fax 512.505.3711 e-mail richard.morgan@austinenergy.com -----Original Message----- From: Allen, Phillip K. [mailto:Phillip.K.Allen@ENRON.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 9:19 AM To: Morgan, Richard Subject: Richard, I spoke to you earlier this week with questions about building with SIP's. I am planning to build a home in San Marcos as soon as I can decide on a builder and materials. I already have my blueprints completed. What I took from our conversation was to use the SIP's with 8.5" roof panels and use a metal roof. I have been working with Johnnie Brown, a builder from San Antonio that is also a Creative Panel rep. The problem is that I have a budget of $85-$90/sf and it does not appear that he will be able to stay within that budget. I don't want to settle for a conventional stick built house. I was wondering about alternatives. Would some combination of a radiant barrier and non-CFC spray insulation provide close to the same energy savings at a lower cost than SIP's. For example, I just spoke to a sales rep for Demilec. He will spray foam insulation at $1.30/sf. That would be approximately $10,000 compared to over $20,000 additional costs for the panels. But would the foam insulation be as effective? Do you have any suggestions of materials or contractors that would help me construct the best home for the money. I am trying to get a bid from Wink with Premier based on you reference. Thank you for your help. Phillip Allen pallen@enron.com 713-853-7041 ********************************************************************** This e-mail is the property of Enron Corp. and/or its relevant affiliate and may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient (s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender or reply to Enron Corp. at enron.messaging.administration@enron.com and delete all copies of the message. This e-mail (and any attachments hereto) are not intended to be an offer (or an acceptance) and do not create or evidence a binding and enforceable contract between Enron Corp. (or any of its affiliates) and the intended recipient or any other party, and may not be relied on by anyone as the basis of a contract by estoppel or otherwise. Thank you. **********************************************************************