Message-ID: <2564107.1075852721870.JavaMail.evans@thyme> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:23:53 -0700 (PDT) From: john.arnold@enron.com To: caroline.abramo@enron.com Subject: RE: ICE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-From: Arnold, John X-To: Abramo, Caroline X-cc: X-bcc: X-Folder: \JARNOLD (Non-Privileged)\Arnold, John\Sent Items X-Origin: Arnold-J X-FileName: JARNOLD (Non-Privileged).pst Hey: 1. Theoretically we could agree upon a trade and cross it on ICE after hours when the risk that someone else gets inside is remote. This is a prearranged trade and is illegal on Nymex, but it is my understanding it will be legal on ICE assuming ICE uses the IPE clearing platform, where prearranged trading is legal. Agree about liquidity. I dont think this really helps ICE's volumes, nor liquidity. Funds want liquidity so they will not flock to ICE in the current state. 2. My guess is not intercommodity, but maybe intracommodity. For instance, a gas daily swap against front month futures may have lower margin than the 2 trades additive. Important Note: ICE is our competition and I am very,very wary to support their system, unless absolutely necessary. -----Original Message----- From: Abramo, Caroline Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:00 PM To: 'doug@campbell.com' Cc: Zivic, Robyn Subject: ICE Hi.. I hope you are all ok.. I am sorry for any losses that may have touched your friends and family.. I looked at the ICE/LCH announcements. I have a few questions: 1. Will ICE be able to work as a deal entry system as well as mechanism to post markets? My concern here is that under the Deutsche proposal we would be able to do a deal with you over the phone and then post it to their system.. and no other market participant would be able to see that transaction.. it would then go straight to the clearing. Currently, I'd say that only 2% of the time ICE has a tighter market than EOL.. this because they do not have the liquidity (and likely will not). There is not a high probability we would ever contribute to this liquidity over our own system (Enron online) so the ability to deal directly with you in still imperative. 2. Can margin at LCH be netted across products? Looking forward to speaking. Thanks and Regards, Caroline