Message-ID: <19389796.1075859177003.JavaMail.evans@thyme> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:36:15 -0700 (PDT) From: jyotiseth9@yahoo.co.in To: harry.arora@enron.com Subject: thanks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-From: jyoti seth X-To: Arora, Harry X-cc: X-bcc: X-Folder: \Harry_Arora_Jan2002\Arora, Harry\Inbox\Saved Mail X-Origin: Arora-H X-FileName: harora (Non-Privileged).pst Thanks a lot Harry - Harpreet - I do appreciate the time you have spent on sending me your answers.I can understand your making the choices you made and they were consciuos ones too. I can understand too coz i am a punjabi too bu t not a sikh bu tI have a lot of sikh friends and we talk of these things often - honestly! You have been a great help thanks again All the best in whatever you pursue - i have made a not and wil send you the results but it will probably take a year of so to comlete this work - i intend to write a book or a series of articles. thanks jytoi --- "Arora, Harry" wrote: > It is a short form of my real name Harpreet. My > colleagues at work in > India use to call me Harry. I came to US to do my > MBA and it started > with this week long orientation. I went through > introducing myself about > 200 times in those 10 days and I realized into the > second day how easy > it would be to work with Harry than with Harpreet. I > still go by > Harrpeet on all records and feel that this works > pretty good. > > I am a Sikh and when I came to US I used to wear a > turban. I vividly > remember interviewing with a turban for numerous > finance jobs and doing > very well but not getting any of those jobs. It was > clear to me that > wearing a turban and looking different would not be > a kind of diversity > this society could take. I saw it as discrimination > and had no reason to > put up with it. Also, I was personally asking a lot > of bold questions > of religion and belief and those converged well in > me cutting my hair > and not wearing a turban in my second year at > school. > > Other than that, every now and then, you do come > across people who you > think have a bias. Its hard to find out whether the > bias is you being an > Indian or because they may not like you as a person. > More often than not > I do think people stereotype me so its harder to get > good interactions > in larger gatherings but once you know people better > everything seems > very normal. > I also think I have been fortunate in working with > people who are fair > but do believe that there are lot of people out > there who may not be so > reasonable. > > On a separate note, I would like to have a look at > the results of the > study you are doing. So if you can send me a copy > I'd appreciate it. > > > Harry > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jyoti seth [mailto:jyotiseth9@yahoo.co.in] > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 5:24 PM > To: Arora, Harry > Subject: one mor e thing > > > one more thing - Is Harry a short form of your > original Indian name . ANy reason to do this. > Also- have you felt any discrimination at work or > socilly - subtle or overt! Anything that you > remember- > I s this discrimination real or percieved! > > I have taken the liberty of asking you more > questions > sinc e you seem to be someone who has thought about > issues which encompas life here. > thanks > jyoti seth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Arora, Harry" wrote: > > Answers to your questions > > A. Faster pace, more professional and stimulating. > > Less autocratic style > > compared to India. Business gets done and then you > > move on. > > B. Not really, more convenience is available in > > terms of healthier food > > outside, more facilities and possibilities in > > sports and working out, > > and more accessibility to art and leisure > > activities. Far more > > comfortable life for working family. ( Comments > dont > > apply to when you > > have kids, have no experience, and hear that it is > > harder) > > C. Not really, contact and interaction is more on > > your initiative than > > forced. Nobody stops by, you have to meet up and > > call and plan in > > advance, which is quite different from India. > > Availability of bars, pubs > > and outdoor activities is far higher in this > country > > than back home > > hence the possibilities for a person who takes > > initiative to make > > friends and ingratiate him/herself are huge. > > > > Comments : I have been here eight years and there > > are three things I can > > say with conviction. > > > > 1. Institutions - private and govt, are organized > > with a clear sense of > > purpose and make decisions and progress. Within > the > > debate and > > differences, things move, changes are made and > > action taken. On the > > contrary in India, there is a lack of liquidity > and > > resources and > > decisions never get made. > > > > 2. Honesty & truth in personal life is much > higher. > > There is > > accompanying freedom. You do what you want to and > > what is right for > > you, and not what tradition or society tells you > to > > do. The result is a > > variety of different vocations and things done and > a > > vibrant society. In > > India, that is harder and unusual. There is little > > faith beyond the > > normal and initiative is killed too soon in life. > > Cynicism rules and > > corruption in personal and public life is abound. > > > > 3. The desire and means to fulfill life beyond > > survival exists. It also > > leads to a loss of purpose and hence many more > > pyschological problems. > > Many people feel no pleasure in the simple joys of > > life because they are > > too easy to come by. Equality in normal life is > > huge (standard of > > living is high for most people and moves up hardly > > any as you become > > more successful) and that leads to a feeling of > > blah. That is what I > > think is prosperity. > > > > > > Hope that helps. If you can forward the original > > questionnaire (I > > already deleted mine) I will forward it to a > couple > > of my Indian > > friends. > > > > > > > > > > Harry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jyoti seth [mailto:jyotiseth9@yahoo.co.in] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:27 PM > > To: Arora, Harry > > Subject: RE: thanks > > > > > > Thank you very much for taking out time to fill in > > this questionnaire. > > A few more questions: > > A) How do you compare the work enviorment in the > US > > with INdia > > B) Do you tink that in some ways one has to work > > more > > at home too in hte US > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send a newsletter, share photos & files, conduct polls, organize chat events. Visit http://in.groups.yahoo.com