Message-ID: <15823095.1075860389433.JavaMail.evans@thyme> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:50:00 -0800 (PST) From: mary.hain@enron.com To: christi.nicolay@enron.com, steve.walton@enron.com, alan.comnes@enron.com, jeff.brown@enron.com Subject: Re: RTO West/PLCG [Fwd: Market Based Transmission Expansion] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-From: Mary Hain X-To: Christi Nicolay, Steve Walton, Alan Comnes, Jeff Brown X-cc: X-bcc: X-Folder: \Mary_Hain_Aug2000_Jul2001\Notes Folders\Discussion threads X-Origin: Hain-M X-FileName: mary-hain.nsf This sounds like an issue we should be coordinating with the East desk too. ---------------------- Forwarded by Mary Hain/HOU/ECT on 02/20/2001 03:55 PM --------------------------- Steve Walton 02/20/2001 10:04 AM To: Alan Comnes/PDX/ECT@ECT cc: mhain@enron.com, steve.walton@enron.com Subject: Re: RTO West/PLCG [Fwd: Market Based Transmission Expansion] Alan, While an open season is useful, I am not sure we need to require it in all instances. If a developer of a generation project needs to build transmission to get its energy to market, they should be allowed to build it and get FTRs. This presumes that the builder will have to negotiate the obstacle course associated with construction (environmental, reliability, and other siting approvals). There are currently so many safeguards in place and building is so difficult, that any requirement for open season may well be generated when you try to use scarce right of way to build less than an optimal line. This is exactly the debate going on in this committee, so as you say, the devil will reside at details.com. Steve Alan Comnes 02/20/2001 09:33 AM To: steve.walton@enron.com, mhain@enron.com cc: Subject: RTO West/PLCG [Fwd: Market Based Transmission Expansion] Steve, Mary: Other than stating that the "devil is in the details," I am not sure I found this that illuminating. Can I assume that we support giving whoever invests in transmission, any identifiable capacity (via FTRs) created by the expansion? I also assume any expansion may need an open season type procedure to make sure the expansion is broadly distributed to prevent monopoly power .... GAC ---------------------- Forwarded by Alan Comnes/PDX/ECT on 02/20/2001 07:28 AM --------------------------- "Kristi M. Wallis" on 02/19/2001 05:28:40 PM Please respond to kristiwallis@sprintmail.com To: Linc Wolverton , Michael Alcantar , "Barnes, Arlena" , "Bayless, Rich" , Dennis Bickford , Doug Brawley , Don Brookhyser , Ray Brush , Geoff Carr , "Carver, Phil" , Kurt Conger , Jim Deason , Sarah Dennison-Leonard , Bob Easton , "Eden, Jim" , Tom Foley , Sue Furst , Brian Gedrich , Don Gillespie , "Gilman, David" , "Granat, Kurt" , "Green, Paula" , Roger Grim , John Haner , Hardev Juj , Paul Kaufman , Scott Kinney , Bud Krogh , Dave Lamb , Marv Landauer , Larry Luna , "Martinsen, John" , Stephanie Miller , "Morris, Ken" , "Olson, Arne" , "Peters, Lon" , "Le, David - PTT-5" , Chris Reese , "Richardson, Shelly" , Wayman Robinett , "Schellberg, Ron" , Don Schoenbeck , Aleka Scott , Margie Shaff , Barney Speckman , Jim Tucker , "Wallis, Kristi" , Steve Walton , "Waples, Scott" , "Weiss, Steve" , Kent Wheatland , Connie White , "White, John" , Ted Williams , Chris Elliott , Patrick Maher , Dave James , Gerit Hull , Dennis Bickford , Angela DeClerck , Scott Wiley , Alan Comnes , Eamonn Duggan , Gil Gallegos , Vernon Porter , Chuck Combs , John Leland , Jerry Rust , Rob Neate , Kathy Carlson , Judy Welch , Randy Hardy cc: Subject: RTO West/PLCG [Fwd: Market Based Transmission Expansion] To Members of the RTO West Stage 2 Planning Content Group: Hello! Attached are some materials regarding market driven expansion that Phil Parks of BC Hydro provided for distribution. I'll have hard copies of this material at tomorrow's small group meeting. Our thanks to Phil for providing this information! Thanks! Kristi X-NAV-TimeoutProtection0: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection1: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection2: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection3: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection4: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection5: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection6: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection7: X Received: from bchnetgw.bchydro.bc.ca (bchnetgw.BCHydro.BC.CA [142.52.88.1]) by emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18080 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bchnetgw.bchydro.bc.ca (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id NAA23504; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:12:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from bchgate by bchnetgw via smap (V2.1) id sma1d022983; Thu, 15 Feb 01 13:11:29 -0800 Received: by BCHydro.bc.ca (SMI-8.6/BCH-5.6.0) id NAA00969; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:11:28 -0800 Received: from edmm41.bchydro.bc.ca by bchgate.bchydro.bc.ca via smap (V2.1) id sma1d000546; Thu, 15 Feb 01 13:11:15 -0800 Received: by edmm41.bchydro.bc.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1YF8DDVD>; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:15:41 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Park, Phil" To: "Gillespie, Don" , "'Scott Waples, Avista'" , "'Kristi Wallis'" , "'Brian Silverstein, BPA'" , "'philip.h.carver@state.or.us'" , "'Ray Bruch, MPC'" , "'Jim Eden, PGE'" , "'John Martinsen, Snohomish'" , "'Chris Reese, PSE'" , "'Ken Morris, Pacificorp'" , "'Kurt Conger'" , "'Marv Landauer, BPA'" , "'Ren Orans'" , "'Bob Easton, WAPA'" , "'Larry Luna, Nevada Power'" Subject: Market Based Transmission Expansion Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:15:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C09794.731373B0" X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 <> Attached is a presentation of the NYISO Working Group on "Principles of Market-Based Expansion Process". It discusses the free rider problem of market based transmission expansion. The section titled "The Devil is in the Details" describes a proposal for paying the transmission investor for the reinforcement - the transmission investor would receive one half of the difference in congestion charges between the with and without reinforcement cases. This proposal was developed last fall for the NYISO. More discussions are planned to determine the feasibility of the proposal. The contact I have is Bob Reed of New York State Electric and Gas Corporation, 607 762 7256, rgreed@nyseg.com. This and other NYISO Transmission Planning proposals can be found at http://www.nyiso.com/services/documents/groups/mc_rto_wg/meeting_materials.h tml - nyseg_value_creation_pres_101000.pdf