Message-ID: <1205071.1075860883733.JavaMail.evans@thyme> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 10:20:55 -0700 (PDT) From: spatti@ensr.com To: scott.patti@enron.com, jon.schmidt@enron.com, john.shafer@enron.com Subject: Navajo ROW costs Cc: doug.cebryk@enron.com, kevin.hyatt@enron.com, eric.gadd@enron.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bcc: doug.cebryk@enron.com, kevin.hyatt@enron.com, eric.gadd@enron.com X-From: Patti, Scott X-To: Patti, Scott , Schmidt, Jon , Shafer, John X-cc: Cebryk, Doug , Hyatt, Kevin , Gadd, Eric X-bcc: X-Folder: \Kevin_Hyatt_Mar2002\Hyatt, Kevin\Projects\Sun Devil X-Origin: Hyatt-K X-FileName: khyatt (Non-Privileged).pst I got a call back from Ed Peck over the weekend. He said that he didn't know where the BLM guy got his numbers, but that $1MM/mile for ROW would be extremely steep. He said that he has heard about the rumored price Kinder Morgan Sonoran might have to pay, said it was pretty astronomical, but not near that expensive. We still haven't spoken directly to eachother (just voice mail). He said that he was down meeting with "Octar?" last week and will be meeting with "Octar" again Tuesday 9/25 in Gallup. He acted as though most anyone I'm speaking with at Transwestern should know who "Octar" is. I have another call back into him - is there anything specific you would like me to ask him? He said that most folks at Transwestern should have a pretty good idea of what ROW costs should be on Navajo. Ed just called. He said that Octar is the Navajo Director of Minerals and that Ed, Louis Soldano, and Johnny McGee just finished negotiating the renewal of the twin mainlines and the San Juan Lateral through 2009 with Octar - it was $30MM. He said that they brought up the possibility of a new line with Octar, and that he thought it would be something similar for the new line. Scott Scott J. Patti Senior Project Manager ENSR International 1601 Prospect Parkway Fort Collins, CO 80525 Phone: (970) 493-8878 Fax: (970) 493-0213 Email: spatti@ensr.com -----Original Message----- From: Patti, Scott Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:28 PM To: Schmidt, Jon; 'Shafer, John' Subject: RE: Agencies and NGOs already contacted for Sun Devil I have absolutely no question in my mind that Ed will be able to give us a real good idea what ROW would cost on the Navajo Nation. I have a call into him right now. Scott J. Patti Senior Project Manager ENSR International 1601 Prospect Parkway Fort Collins, CO 80525 Phone: (970) 493-8878 Fax: (970) 493-0213 Email: spatti@ensr.com -----Original Message----- From: Schmidt, Jon Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:07 PM To: 'Shafer, John' Cc: Patti, Scott Subject: RE: Agencies and NGOs already contacted for Sun Devil THat is ROW cost he quoted, Scott does our Navajo consultant have any experience about what the tribe will ask for on the ROW ? This cost is not for cult. res. work. As for schedule, if we go the informal collaborative approach, FERC won't take a year from the time we file, but more like 7-8 months, thereby giving them some more time on the back end. But to do this requires getting land permits in for federal easements, and yes, that does require some survey detail. j -----Original Message----- From: Shafer, John [mailto:John.Shafer@ENRON.com] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 1:41 PM To: Schmidt, Jon Cc: Patti, Scott Subject: FW: Agencies and NGOs already contacted for Sun Devil Importance: High Jon, See Doug Cebryk's note below. Is the quote correct on the cost per mile for Arche' work? And even if that is the normal cost - that would be paid for only those miles of ROW where Phase II and/or Phase III work would be done???? Not the entire 400 miles????? Help me here to quantify! John -----Original Message----- From: Cebryk, Doug Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:13 AM To: 'Patti, Scott'; Shafer, John; Hyatt, Kevin; Gadd, Eric Cc: Schmidt, Jon; Taylor, Gina; Alstad, Jon; Gleffe, Larry; McGee, Johnny Subject: RE: Agencies and NGOs already contacted for Sun Devil To All I have done a cursory review of the requirements of the agencies contacted, and 2 significant itmes leap out. #1 New Mexico BLM Permitting - Cultural Resources David Simmons - Archeologist - Farmington BLM office quoted " Navajo ROW costs usually approximately $1MM/mile". THIS COULD MAKE AN UNECONOMICAL PROJECT FROM DAY 1 #2 Longest permit times are 1 year, which means that with a tentative schedule as follows: FERC Filing - Sept/01 to March 30/02 FERC Approval - April 1/02 - April 1/03 - 1 year Construction - April 1/03 - Jan 1/04 - 9 mos In order to start construction by April 1/03 to achieve an in service in early 2004, application for specific long lead permits will need to be made April 1/02. This will require significant field work and design details prior to April 1/02. I doubt we will be ready to commit to such an undertaking this early in the process. I suggest after the ENSR fatal flaw analysis is complete, a very comprehensive review of all permits and their relation to the critical path is undertaken. -----Original Message----- From: Patti, Scott [mailto:SPatti@ensr.com] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:54 AM To: Shafer, John; Hyatt, Kevin; Gadd, Eric Cc: Schmidt, Jon; Taylor, Gina; Cebryk, Doug; Alstad, Jon Subject: Agencies and NGOs already contacted for Sun Devil US EPA, Regions VI and IX US Forest Service - Coconino, Kaibab, and Prescott Forests BLM - NM State Office, Farmington Field Office, AZ State Office, Phoenix Field Office US DOT US Army Corps of Engineers - LA District and NM District Navajo Nation - Mineral Department, Arizona Game and Fish Department Arizona Department of Environmental Quality Arizona Department of Water Resources Arizona Department of Transportation New Mexico Department of Game and Fish New Mexico Forestry Division New Mexico Energy, Mineral and Natural Resources Department New Mexico Environment Department New Mexico Office of the State Engineer New Mexico State Highway and Transportation Department Union Pacific Railroad The Nature Conservancy Attached are most of the telephone call summary sheets from these conversations and summaries of permit requirements. We also have most of the permit applications for any of the permits that we would be obtaining from these agencies. I am currently working on the telephone call summary sheets for the Forest Service contacts. Scott J. Patti Senior Project Manager ENSR International 1601 Prospect Parkway Fort Collins, CO 80525 Phone: (970) 493-8878 Fax: (970) 493-0213 Email: spatti@ensr.com -----Original Message----- From: Shafer, John [mailto:John.Shafer@ENRON.com] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:47 AM To: Patti, Scott; Hyatt, Kevin; Gadd, Eric Cc: Schmidt, Jon; Taylor, Gina; Cebryk, Doug Subject: RE: Confidentiality of Sun Devil??? Yes, please forward a list to myself, Kevin and Eric. Thanks, John -----Original Message----- From: Patti, Scott [mailto:SPatti@ensr.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 4:49 PM To: Shafer, John; Hyatt, Kevin; Gadd, Eric Cc: Schmidt, Jon; Taylor, Gina; Cebryk, Doug Subject: RE: Confidentiality of Sun Devil??? We have already been in contact primarily with most of the state and Federal level agencies that exist in both AZ and NM as well as the Navajo agencies. I could get you a complete list of agencies we've contacted if you'd like, but almost every agency that would or could issue a permit in both states has been contacted. Scott J. Patti Senior Project Manager ENSR International 1601 Prospect Parkway Fort Collins, CO 80525 Phone: (970) 493-8878 Fax: (970) 493-0213 Email: spatti@ensr.com -----Original Message----- From: Shafer, John [mailto:John.Shafer@ENRON.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:49 PM To: Hyatt, Kevin; Gadd, Eric Cc: Patti, Scott; Schmidt, Jon; Taylor, Gina; Cebryk, Doug Subject: RE: Confidentiality of Sun Devil??? Scott, Please furnish a list of who you will be talking with. (Caveat: Scott, you certainly realize that you must provide the FERC with summary notes of meetings with groups, agencies, etc. when we make the FERC filing - so keep good notes). John -----Original Message----- From: Hyatt, Kevin Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 1:44 PM To: Shafer, John; Gadd, Eric Cc: 'SPatti@ENSR.com'; 'JSchmidt@ENSR.com'; Taylor, Gina; Cebryk, Doug Subject: RE: Confidentiality of Sun Devil??? I spoke with Eric this afternoon. We'd like a list of who ENSR is talking with. We recognize the need to be as open as we can with stakeholders and consultees and concur with John's comment below. We're comfortable with Scott being able to show regulators a map of the preliminary route. thanks kh -----Original Message----- From: Shafer, John Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:41 PM To: Hyatt, Kevin; Gadd, Eric Cc: 'SPatti@ENSR.com'; 'JSchmidt@ENSR.com'; Taylor, Gina; Cebryk, Doug Subject: FW: Confidentiality of Sun Devil??? Kevin and Eric, Please read Scott's question below. I have no problem with being a little more open with the regulators. I would not publish anything in the paper (as yet) showing a route, etc., etc. as that will only get the landowners stirred up before we are ready. What are your thoughts? Are you comfortable with Scott being able to show the regulators a map of a preliminary route? John -----Original Message----- From: Patti, Scott [mailto:SPatti@ensr.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:30 PM To: Cebryk, Doug; Shafer, John; Campbell, Larry Cc: Kendrick, William; Hyatt, Kevin; Schmidt, Jon; Alstad, Jon; Wade, Alisa Subject: Confidentiality of Sun Devil??? In discussions with several agency personnel, it "appears" as though they are somewhat aware of Sun Devil. Is it still to be treated as confidential, or can we discuss it more freely? The main benefit I see, if we can discuss it more freely, is that many of the regulators have said things like "I would need to see a route to be able to answer your question better." Let me know. Thanks, Scott Scott J. 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