Message-ID: <20403637.1075841399377.JavaMail.evans@thyme> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:00:14 -0800 (PST) From: joe.parks@enron.com To: brianc@saltgrass.com, erwollam@hotmail.com, knipe3@msn.com, cmccomb@austin-mccomb.com, kmccomb@austin-mccomb.com Subject: RE: age of joe's deer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-From: Parks, Joe X-To: 'Brian Constantine' , Erik Wollam , knipe3@msn.com, cmccomb@austin-mccomb.com, kmccomb@austin-mccomb.com X-cc: X-bcc: X-Folder: \ExMerge - Parks, Joe\Sent Items X-Origin: PARKS-J X-FileName: joe parks 6-26-02.pst brian didnt age/guess that your 10 point was 5 1/2? -----Original Message----- From: Brian Constantine [mailto:brianc@saltgrass.com] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:50 PM To: Erik Wollam; knipe3@msn.com; cmccomb@austin-mccomb.com; Parks, Joe; kmccomb@austin-mccomb.com Subject: RE: age of joe's deer I think you are right on there...I'm just telling you that if you had seen = that 10 point I shot "on the hoof", not dead on the ground w/ a cut out low= er jaw for inspection, you would have said "Damn, that's an old deer."=20 Compared to his Identical Offspring. Same body size, Same EXACT antler form= ation (9" g-2's, with a 2 inch kicker coming out sideways from his left G-2= , and crab claw) The only difference b/w these 2 deer was the young one had= about 2 inches more spread, and about 15 inches more total antlers) Mass w= as more on my deer, indicating age. The BIG difference was standing side by= side, the younger one looked like a "thoroughbread Horse", while mine look= ed like a mule...if you can understand that. That being said, if we think t= hat we are underestimating age on the hoof and putting all the criteria tog= ether about what "formula" makes a old deer look old, I would have to say t= hat My 10 point was "Mature and on his way down" while the young one (Same = deer that Keith has seen, too) is "Mature and on his way up". The last thin= g I have to say about that was that the "Young" deer of the two was definit= ely the "dominant" of the two as well. He was aggressive towards my "ol' ba= stard" and the old guy didn't want any part of him...The young one was pass= ed on harvesting by both Keith and myself and I chose to harvest the older = one of the two. Put in the same arena with a bunch of does and his younger = sibling, that younger sibling was gonna get the chance to "pour the Chili" = while the old guy snuck in from the brush, got bullied away by the "stud", = ate enough to survive, and silently sneaked away. Meanwhile the younger stu= d, ate and chased does around to his hearts content, no worries about anyth= ing. Which deer needed to get shot in that scenario? My final answer...my deer..7.5 yrs or older. His son, 4.5 and about to be a= Texas Big Game Award winner next season if he lives through the summer and= doesn't "disappear" like a lot of the other bucks we never see again from = year to year.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Erik Wollam [mailto:erwollam@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:08 PM To: knipe3@msn.com; cmccomb@austin-mccomb.com; Joe.Parks@enron.com; kmccomb= @austin-mccomb.com; Brian Constantine Subject: age of joe's deer Went to BFE with Joe during lunch to pick up his european mount of his 9pt.= =20 He aged Joes deer at 8.5. We may be underaging alot of these deer on the=20 hoof. The guy does nice work and the prices were reasonable. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:=20 http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx