Message-ID: <5721965.1075860051303.JavaMail.evans@thyme> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:56:00 -0800 (PST) From: mark.taylor@enron.com To: elizabeth.sager@enron.com Subject: Re: UK Courts vs. Arbitration for UK Swap Agreements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-From: Mark - ECT Legal Taylor X-To: Elizabeth Sager X-cc: X-bcc: X-Folder: \Mark_Taylor _Dec_2000\Notes Folders\Sent X-Origin: Taylor-M X-FileName: mtaylor.nsf FYI ---------------------- Forwarded by Mark - ECT Legal Taylor/HOU/ECT on 01/18/99 05:56 PM --------------------------- Paul Simons 01/18/99 06:13 AM To: Mark - ECT Legal Taylor/HOU/ECT@ECT cc: Scott Sefton/LON/ECT@ECT, Richard B Sanders/HOU/ECT@ECT, Tana Jones/HOU/ECT@ECT, Edmund Cooper/LON/ECT@ECT Subject: Re: UK Courts vs. Arbitration for UK Swap Agreements Mark I would follow the Canadian model for the UK and would endorse Scott's views about the sophistication of the UK courts. Deals done on the ISDA form, where Engish law is agreed, will automatically bring the parties to the English courts. I think we should also consider the position under our continental power documents and perhaps think about crystallising in writing a policy on this area which is more trading oriented than the existing policy. Paul To: Scott Sefton/LON/ECT@ECT cc: Richard B Sanders/HOU/ECT@ECT, Paul Simons/LON/ECT@ECT, Tana Jones/HOU/ECT@ECT, Edmund Cooper/LON/ECT@ECT Subject: Re: UK Courts vs. Arbitration for UK Swap Agreements Scott: The response from Richard is that we are happy with UK courts so long as our counterparty is in the UK, but if we have a counterparty on the continent and there is any chance that submission to the exclusive jurisdiction of UK courts might not be fully enforced in the counterparty's country, we should go to arbitration. In other words, we would prefer arbitration to ending up in court in a jurisdiction in Europe. Let's add this to the list of topics to discuss when I'm in London. Thanks, Mark Scott Sefton 01/11/99 04:08 AM To: Mark - ECT Legal Taylor/HOU/ECT@ECT cc: Richard B Sanders/HOU/ECT@ECT, Paul Simons/LON/ECT@ECT, Tana Jones/HOU/ECT@ECT Subject: Re: UK Courts vs. Arbitration for UK Swap Agreements My sense is that the market custom here is to use the English courts, not arbitration. I think the English commercial court judges are pretty sophisticated and would be able to work through the issues. Since Paul is out this week, I haven't had a chance to speak to him about this. Let's wait to hear his views when he returns to the office. Thanks! To: Richard B Sanders/HOU/ECT@ECT cc: Paul Simons/LON/ECT@ECT, Scott Sefton/LON/ECT@ECT, Tana Jones/HOU/ECT@ECT Subject: UK Courts vs. Arbitration for UK Swap Agreements Richard: In the US we have changed our swap agreement forms to provide for arbitration in order to avoid having to explain the intricacies of derivatives trading to judges or, God forbid, juries. In Canada we are continuing to submit to the jurisdiction of Canadian courts (on the theory that there are no juries in civil actions and arbitration is rarely used in Canadian contracts generally). As we are presently in the process of revising our UK swap agreement forms, I guess it's time to revisit the issue as it applies to UK agreements. Currently we agree to UK law and the jurisdiction of UK courts (where there are no juries in civil actions). Should this continue to be our policy or should we begin going for arbitration in the UK contracts also? I would ask Paul and Scott to let Richard and me know if arbitration is widely enough used in UK agreements that we can get away with asking for it. Thanks, Mark